Rename fails if "â" character in rule

skiwi · 2014-01-12 10:19

I have a rule
Insert "Siân" as suffix (skip extension)

When I rename is says 45 Files failed to rename.
(Just as aside, it there a detailed log that says exactly what the problem is?)

Yet the rule
Insert "Sian" as suffix (skip extension)
worts just fine

Windows 7 64 bit.
Renamer 5.70 and 5.74
Renamer installed "run as administrator"

Last edited by skiwi (2014-01-12 10:29)

den4b · 2014-01-13 00:00

I have just tried doing the same and it worked (as I would have expected).

Currently there is no detailed log with errors available, but it is a planned feature.

Have you tried ruling out all of the possible potential issues listed in the wiki article below?
http://www.den4b.com/wiki/ReNamer:Failed_renaming

skiwi · 2014-02-08 16:56

I have done more investigation on this.
By trying each rule one at a time, and making sure the path name is not too long I find the following
- failure situation
Example showing failed rename
- success situation
Example showing successful rename
What is happening beats me

thanks, Simon

den4b · 2014-02-08 18:37

Hi Simon,

Could you please write here in text (no screenshots) the full paths of files and the rules which cause the problem?

If I could reproduce it then I would be able to investigate it further...

skiwi · 2014-02-09 06:03

Folder name is
C:\2014-01-08 Ngauranga Gorge Storm Water Pipes\

Example file name is
2014-01-08 19.20.45 P1086898.jpeg
rules are

rules, failing on ticked

failing rule
this rule fails

successful rule
this rule works

skiwi · 2014-02-09 06:09

Default rules are

[Rule0]
ID=Delete
Config=FROM:1;UNTIL:3;FROMPOSITION:1;UNTILCOUNT:20;FROMDELIMITER:+;UNTILDELIMITER:+;RIGHTTOLEFT:1;SKIPEXTENSION:1;LEAVEDELIMITER:0
Marked=0

[Rule1]
ID=Delete
Config=FROM:1;UNTIL:1;FROMPOSITION:1;UNTILCOUNT:3;FROMDELIMITER:+%2D+;UNTILDELIMITER:+%2D+;RIGHTTOLEFT:0;SKIPEXTENSION:1;LEAVEDELIMITER:0
Marked=0

[Rule2]
ID=Delete
Config=FROM:1;UNTIL:2;FROMPOSITION:30;UNTILCOUNT:20;FROMDELIMITER:+%2D+;UNTILDELIMITER:+%2D+;RIGHTTOLEFT:0;SKIPEXTENSION:1;LEAVEDELIMITER:0
Marked=0

[Rule3]
ID=Insert
Config=TEXT:%3AEXIF%5FDate%3A;WHERE:1;POSITION:1;INSERTAFTERTEXT:;INSERTBEFORETEXT:;RIGHTTOLEFT:0;SKIPEXTENSION:0
Marked=0

[Rule4]
ID=Insert
Config=TEXT:%3AFile%5FDateCreated%3A+;WHERE:1;POSITION:1;INSERTAFTERTEXT:;INSERTBEFORETEXT:;RIGHTTOLEFT:0;SKIPEXTENSION:0
Marked=0

[Rule5]
ID=Insert
Config=TEXT:%3AFile%5FDateModified%3A+;WHERE:1;POSITION:1;INSERTAFTERTEXT:;INSERTBEFORETEXT:;RIGHTTOLEFT:0;SKIPEXTENSION:0
Marked=0

[Rule6]
ID=Insert
Config=TEXT:+;WHERE:4;POSITION:20;INSERTAFTERTEXT:;INSERTBEFORETEXT:;RIGHTTOLEFT:0;SKIPEXTENSION:1
Marked=0

[Rule7]
ID=Insert
Config=TEXT:+Simon;WHERE:2;POSITION:1;INSERTAFTERTEXT:;INSERTBEFORETEXT:;RIGHTTOLEFT:0;SKIPEXTENSION:1
Marked=0

[Rule8]
ID=Insert
Config=TEXT:+Adrian;WHERE:2;POSITION:1;INSERTAFTERTEXT:;INSERTBEFORETEXT:;RIGHTTOLEFT:0;SKIPEXTENSION:1
Marked=0

[Rule9]
ID=Insert
Config=TEXT:+Si%1Ean;WHERE:2;POSITION:1;INSERTAFTERTEXT:;INSERTBEFORETEXT:;RIGHTTOLEFT:0;SKIPEXTENSION:1
Marked=1

[Rule10]
ID=Insert
Config=TEXT:+Holly;WHERE:2;POSITION:21;INSERTAFTERTEXT:;INSERTBEFORETEXT:P12;RIGHTTOLEFT:0;SKIPEXTENSION:1
Marked=0

[Rule11]
ID=Replace
Config=TEXTWHAT:jpg;TEXTWITH:jpeg;WHICH:2;SKIPEXTENSION:0;CASESENSITIVE:0;USEWILDCARDS:0
Marked=0

[Rule12]
ID=Replace
Config=TEXTWHAT:Si%1Ean;TEXTWITH:Si%1E%C3%A2n;WHICH:3;SKIPEXTENSION:1;CASESENSITIVE:0;USEWILDCARDS:0
Marked=0

[Rule13]
ID=CleanUp
Config=BRACKETSROUND:0;BRACKETSSQUARE:0;BRACKETSCURVY:0;SPACESDOT:0;SPACESCOMMA:0;SPACESUNDERSCORE:0;SPACESPLUS:0;SPACESHYPHEN:0;SPACESWEB:0;SPACESSKIPVERSIONS:0;SPACESFIX:1;SKIPEXTENSION:1;PREPAREFORSHAREPOINT:0;INSERTSPACEBEFORECAPITALS:0;NORMALIZESPACES:0
Marked=0

[Rule14]
ID=Insert
Config=TEXT:+%2D+;WHERE:2;POSITION:1;INSERTAFTERTEXT:;INSERTBEFORETEXT:;RIGHTTOLEFT:0;SKIPEXTENSION:1
Marked=0

SafetyCar · 2014-02-09 10:40

That character that reads in the rules as %1E seems to be a reserved character for windows names. In my system I can't even see it as in your screenshots, it shows as a square.

Meanwhile Denis offers reply you can find other ways to write the symbol searching on the internet, for example I found this one: http://symbolcodes.tlt.psu.edu/accents/codealt.html

den4b · 2014-02-09 12:40

Like SafetyCar said, there is a hidden system character in the rule that inserts " Sian":

  = 0020 (space)
S = 0053
i = 0069
  = 001E (reserved system character)
a = 0061
n = 006E

The character code 1E (hex) in ASCII table stands for Record Separator.

If you were using ALT codes to make the accents then you might have made a typo. Try to recreate that rule and retype the " Sian" part again.

skiwi · 2014-02-09 16:28

Thanks for the feedback, deleting that rule fixed the problem.

One of the things had I tried was to delete the rule with "Siân" previously and replace it with "Sian",
I'm not sure how that character slipped in to the deleted and replaced rule. (It is true that I used Alt-1-3-1 to create the "â" in the original rule).

This prompts me to suggest that
* it would be helpful if Renamed displayed non-printing characters as * or similar, because I don't even see a □ displayed.
* it would be helpful if the reason the rename failed was available (perhaps adding an "error message" column)

den4b · 2014-02-11 01:05

skiwi wrote:

This prompts me to suggest that
* it would be helpful if Renamed displayed non-printing characters as * or similar, because I don't even see a □ displayed.
* it would be helpful if the reason the rename failed was available (perhaps adding an "error message" column)

Ability to see detailed error message for each failed renaming operation is defiantly a "must have". This feature was on the wishlist for a long time and now I bumped it up to the top priority.

In regards to the displaying hidden characters, I'll have to think about it. There might be unwanted side effects.

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Rename fails if "â" character in rule

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